Tournaments and RacingPony Wars 2

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When: Saturday, April 8, 2017

Pony Cars are generally considered 'Muscle Cars', but Pony Cars are actually their own class...long hoods, two door, and a really short trunk are the basic well as being nimble, 'sporty' cars. Here's a definition of a Pony Car...

I had the initial Pony Wars race 2 years ago and it was a pretty good series. So, I'll be hosting another event this year.

Rules & Restrictions

  • Weight 40 grams
  • Size restrictions; 3.25" long, orange track funny cars
  • Cars per entrant; maximum of 3 cars per entrant...all of different can't have all Camaros or Mustangs...they must be different makes
  • Brand, body style; see above for a description. I would like to keep them to US build cars, but, Nissan Z cars and Toyota Celicas are on the well as a few others
  • Wheel limitations, requirements; FTE wheels are wheel bearings. Must use Hot Wheels style axles
  • Must be drilled rivets
  • Dry lubes only
  • Misc requirements; This is not a reqiirement, but it looks cool...paint your cars "team colors", so your cars are easily identified as 'yours'


TBD. Describe the prize(s) offered. Include an image if available. If there is no prize, delete this section.

How to enter

Post a reply, pics are always nice

Are there any entry or shipping fees? If you'd like your cars back, please include return shipping.

Where to send your cars

Chris Raab

9 Sherman Ridge Road 

Sussex, NJ.   07461

Don't forget to print an ID card with your entry

Entry deadline

April 8th, 2017

Scoring and Winning

1 point per round win, plus an extra point for making it into the finals. The first race will be a drag race...random draw, single elimination. The 2nd race will be an open track race that will also be a random draw single elimination race, but it will take place on an open track. Winner is the car that wins 2 races in a row, on alternate matter how many races it takes to determine a winner.


The Traction Event rule is in place...if your car is 3 grams or more over the 40 gram limit, it will be painted pink, raced, and not, be sure to keep the cars on weight

Tracks & Dates

Series tracks
  • April 8th, 2017, NJ- 72_Chevy_C10 (drags)
  • April 15th, 2017, NJ - 72_Chevy_C10 (open track)

Winners and Results

TBD. Mention the winner, the final results and include a picture of the winning car if available.

I'm in for sure, and I will race a Mustang, Camaro and I will find that Javelin in your honor C10!!! Looking forward to it. On a side note...the wife said I needed another hobby!!!!

I can't find the Javelin...bummer going with a 69 Firebird instead.
On another side note, I was surprised to see Faquay-Varina as a return address...I used to live in Raleigh...had buddies in F-V
Small world sometimes for sure.

I 'm gonna try and get some cars ready for this one.  When you say no wheel inserts/hot wheels style axles does that mean I can't cut the axles and put them in aluminum tubing?  Is the Rodger Dodger acceptible, it's supposed to be based off the '73 charger SE.  Also gonna try the 68' Nova and Plymouth Duster Thruster, garage is finally warming up from the winter cold excited to start modding again.

Axle tubes are 'wheel inserts' I am referring to a metal bushing pressed into the wheels
The Roger Dodger is okay...and the Nova...I'm not sure that a Duster would be considered a Pony Car though

Broke tap in the rodger dodger today, so I went to the toy store and found Barracuda, Javelin, and Challenger.  The Nova is built just needs a paint job and a little weight, for team colors i'm calling dibs on silver primary and black secondary.

I would consider the 69 Pontiac GTO a Pony Car...objections?

Picture of 1969 Pontiac GTO exterior

Yup, GTO is okay :)

How about the Maverick Grabber?

1970 Ford Maverick

Maverick is also okay :)

 Barracuda was a drag body, what about an Olds 442 W-30

4-4-2 is kinda straying over into 'Muscle Car', but the Wiki page says that Cutlesses are, I guess a 4-4-2 would be okay.
But, remember, these things will be going around corners too :)
I'll just use the Javelin then, I'm just trying to use cars that I think other people won't use.

Upon further consideration....the League of Speed will be racing a 67 Mustang GT, 69 Pontiac Firebird and a 69 Pontiac GTO. The team colors will be Glow Orange with Black roofs.

Actually, the 442 Olds and the GTO pictured at that particular time shared the same chassis, grew up in the car business...just study the pics...bodies slightly different, but you can tell....both GMC products.

Cool...go for the 4-4-2!

The Before "Modding" shot
I always forget to do the before shots, i've been working hard and will try and produce a pre-paint shot tonight.
C10 just coached me through how to post pics period today....kid in candy store effect!
good choices as well,
Cool! I'm glad that you've figured out posting pics!

Javelin, Nova, Challenger

solid team there....
Looking Good!

Gonna donate this Fat Fendered '40 treasure hunt to the prize pool, sorry about the quality of my photos I don't have any high def cameras.

TE getting his grudge match swag on already???
Did someone say 'grudge match'? :)

I might have something special for this race... testing a theory. 

Grudge Match?

....a grudge match?????

I feel the Need...the Need for Speed!!!

I like where this thread is going. :)

Final Run ended this casting, but its racing career is never over. It looks like a dryad from a fantasy world should be in the driver's seat of this 93 Camaro.

You boys gonna race them ponies...or whistle Dixie.

Prints  Posters of Clint Eastwood 21892

Hey Guys,

I'll run whatever grudge races you'd like to run :) 

I'll get some builds going soon, so you can see what I'm running as well.

Just let me know what you want to run...and I'll make it happen :)

The bodies are in the paint shop and the chassis are ready to be refit as the donor cars are in the chop shop. Hope to get the bodies off and axels extracted tonight. Good Luck on the builds!!!

One pony getting close. Home track is not set up, so we'll see if it's fast on race day

You like those 2nd Gen without the spoilers, don't ya? :) Looking good!
Always did like a smooth... um... rear end...

OK, I'll share.....if you have a 67 Mustang GT like I'm modding and want to go with FTE's and don't have a another Mustang for the swap.....Ford Shelby GR-1 Concept works great. The fatter back tires make for a more aggressive looking Stang. The 69 Pontiac Firebird matches up nice with the FTE Fast Fish....I had a FTE 69 Pontiac GTO, so that one was cake. I also see some racers are modding second generation Ponies....I like it!!!!

Have you seen any of my posts about axle tubes...tgat might help ya out.
I put axel tubes in that Chevelle SS I raced in the Dragon Wagons
I will do tubes if a straight swap is just hard to accomplish.
If you have an axel that won't work, you still have to pop it out of a donor car.
Okay, just checking...axle tubes help get the width set
I agree

It's to windy in NC to paint today, so I will polish some axels and get one chassis in the jig tonight. 

Progress on 2nd Pony... wing will stay on this one.

Pretty work there TE
Look at those fancy axle tubes :) Looking good, TE!
why didn't you finish filing out the tubing so its half round all the way across?
That's more than enough,filling should be contained within the chassid-IMO
I stopped splitting the axles. I dont think its the way to go.
slot in axle tube, for epoxy to hold axles in place.

Ready to get jiggy with it.

All lined up and ready.

Well, I think there are a few potential Ponys already know the blue one in the middle is one of them, with it's mighty 401! But, I'll have to sort out the other contenders.

Good choices there, and the mighty AMC!!!

Mustang chassis in the jig taking a JB nap

Not windy today but now to cold to apply the primer

Might switch out the Javelin for '68 mustang gasser I had built last summer.  The Javelin is just not passing performance test.

The mighty Javelins aren't for the feign of's not easy to get speed out of an AMC product :)

GTO in the jig

Ok, my team is assembled, just some fine tuning and these are ready to race... Team colors for the most part... Except for the Mustang, bit of a wild hair that one... not known to follow the crowd. 

I'll also post up some race bait, for anyone interested in a Grudge race

Race bait for a Grudge match... You call out one of my cars...and "if" you beat pick one of these cars.

Call out TE. Drag track only. Vs TA.

Official Video and Music of the Grudge Match !!!


Got the bodies primed yesterday and painting the roofs today.....finish the bodies tomorrow. After I get them reassembled and tuned, I will see if any are grudge match worthy. Good Luck on the builds.

Roofs are done

I turned 50 on the 6th...I knew this would be a slow build (s)

I've got a question regarding the rules. I want to enter a 70 Buick Skylark GSX, and to get it to be less like a GSX and more like a stock Skylark, I'd remove the spoiler from the trunk of the casting. Is that against the rules of this race? 

You can remove the spoiler

Also, the Glo - Orange was to over the top, still orange but more the color of the GTO pictured above. 

Maybe TE should use the glow orange and know Hulk Mania colors.
Wife and daughters say go with the back to Glo-Orange

Got to hit it with clear coat, so it will darken up's orange.

Going to paint some details as well, it will help tone it down some.
That is bright!!! we won't miss this on the track, looks great.

Been to cold to paint here in NC last  couple of days, but I'm in the short rows, so making the deadline won't be a problem. I want to get to speed testing to see if I have some grudge match worthy speed or just very bright sacrificial lambs.

My printer is busted (stressing me out) so I made my ID card by hand with all the appropriate information, I hope this is acceptable.  On the bright side I got a new phone so better quality photos. I'll have them shipped sometime this week.

-'68 Nova

-'68 Shelby GT 500

-'70 Dodge Challenger

Good looking team...

My cars are in the mail...

I got your cars yesterday, TE...I haven't opened the box yet
he he... oh I expect a call once you do open the box
I'll check them out this weekend :)

Mine will ship out no later than Monday the 27th, finish things up between now and then.....and I'll be all outta bubble gum by then....only one thing left to do.

Can I use OH5?

Sure thing, not a problem!

Is OH5 OK?


Mine are being shipped

My Lil Ponies

shipping out on Monday 3/27
If the roll as good as they look, we're all in trouble. Nice builds and paint
Mustang had to lose the interior to make weight, interior put it at 42.5g
They all weigh 39.7g
Thanks Guys-Looking Forward to the racing

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