Tournaments and RacingPony Wars 2...This Weekend!

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When: Saturday, April 8, 2017

Pony Cars are generally considered 'Muscle Cars', but Pony Cars are actually their own class...long hoods, two door, and a really short trunk are the basic looks...as well as being nimble, 'sporty' cars. Here's a definition of a Pony Car...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_car

I had the initial Pony Wars race 2 years ago and it was a pretty good series. So, I'll be hosting another event this year.

Rules & Restrictions

  • Weight 40 grams
  • Size restrictions; 3.25" long, orange track wide...no funny cars
  • Cars per entrant; maximum of 3 cars per entrant...all of different makes...you can't have all Camaros or Mustangs...they must be different makes
  • Brand, body style; see above for a description. I would like to keep them to US build cars, but, Nissan Z cars and Toyota Celicas are on the list...as well as a few others
  • Wheel limitations, requirements; FTE wheels are allowed...no wheel inserts...no bearings. Must use Hot Wheels style axles
  • Must be drilled rivets
  • Dry lubes only
  • Misc requirements; This is not a reqiirement, but it looks cool...paint your cars "team colors", so your cars are easily identified as 'yours'

Prizes

TBD. Describe the prize(s) offered. Include an image if available. If there is no prize, delete this section.

How to enter

Post a reply ....plus, pics are always nice

Are there any entry or shipping fees? If you'd like your cars back, please include return shipping.

Where to send your cars

Chris Raab

9 Sherman Ridge Road 

Sussex, NJ.   07461

Don't forget to print an ID card with your entry

Entry deadline

April 8th, 2017

Scoring and Winning

1 point per round win, plus an extra point for making it into the finals. The first race will be a drag race...random draw, single elimination. The 2nd race will be an open track race that will also be a random draw single elimination race, but it will take place on an open track. Winner is the car that wins 2 races in a row, on alternate lanes...no matter how many races it takes to determine a winner.

Penalties

The Traction Event rule is in place...if your car is 3 grams or more over the 40 gram limit, it will be painted pink, raced, and not counted...so, be sure to keep the cars on weight

Tracks & Dates

Series tracks
  • April 8th, 2017, NJ- 72_Chevy_C10 (drags)
  • April 15th, 2017, NJ - 72_Chevy_C10 (open track)

Winners and Results

TBD. Mention the winner, the final results and include a picture of the winning car if available.

I'm in for sure, and I will race a Mustang, Camaro and I will find that Javelin in your honor C10!!! Looking forward to it. On a side note...the wife said I needed another hobby!!!!

LeagueofSpeed
I can't find the Javelin...bummer going with a 69 Firebird instead.
72_Chevy_C10
On another side note, I was surprised to see Faquay-Varina as a return address...I used to live in Raleigh...had buddies in F-V
LeagueofSpeed
Small world sometimes for sure.

I 'm gonna try and get some cars ready for this one.  When you say no wheel inserts/hot wheels style axles does that mean I can't cut the axles and put them in aluminum tubing?  Is the Rodger Dodger acceptible, it's supposed to be based off the '73 charger SE.  Also gonna try the 68' Nova and Plymouth Duster Thruster, garage is finally warming up from the winter cold excited to start modding again.


72_Chevy_C10
Axle tubes are okay...by 'wheel inserts' I am referring to a metal bushing pressed into the wheels
72_Chevy_C10
The Roger Dodger is okay...and the Nova...I'm not sure that a Duster would be considered a Pony Car though

Broke tap in the rodger dodger today, so I went to the toy store and found Barracuda, Javelin, and Challenger.  The Nova is built just needs a paint job and a little weight, for team colors i'm calling dibs on silver primary and black secondary.

I would consider the 69 Pontiac GTO a Pony Car...objections?

Picture of 1969 Pontiac GTO exterior

72_Chevy_C10
Yup, GTO is okay :)

How about the Maverick Grabber?

1970 Ford Maverick

72_Chevy_C10
Maverick is also okay :)

 Barracuda was a drag body, what about an Olds 442 W-30


72_Chevy_C10
4-4-2 is kinda straying over into 'Muscle Car', but the Wiki page says that Cutlesses are okay...so, I guess a 4-4-2 would be okay.
72_Chevy_C10
But, remember, these things will be going around corners too :)
Jdub3000
I'll just use the Javelin then, I'm just trying to use cars that I think other people won't use.

Upon further consideration....the League of Speed will be racing a 67 Mustang GT, 69 Pontiac Firebird and a 69 Pontiac GTO. The team colors will be Glow Orange with Black roofs.

Actually, the 442 Olds and the GTO pictured at that particular time shared the same chassis, grew up in the car business...just study the pics...bodies slightly different, but you can tell....both GMC products.

72_Chevy_C10
Cool...go for the 4-4-2!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170228_201112_zpsku55m3hc.jpg

LeagueofSpeed
The Before "Modding" shot
Jdub3000
I always forget to do the before shots, i've been working hard and will try and produce a pre-paint shot tonight.
LeagueofSpeed
C10 just coached me through how to post pics period today....kid in candy store effect!
Traction-Event
good choices as well,
72_Chevy_C10
Cool! I'm glad that you've figured out posting pics!

Javelin, Nova, Challenger


Traction-Event
solid team there....
72_Chevy_C10
Looking Good!

Gonna donate this Fat Fendered '40 treasure hunt to the prize pool, sorry about the quality of my photos I don't have any high def cameras.


http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/1kk8dc.jpg

72_Chevy_C10
Ha!
LeagueofSpeed
TE getting his grudge match swag on already???
72_Chevy_C10
Did someone say 'grudge match'? :)

I might have something special for this race... testing a theory. 


Grudge Match? 

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/image3333.jpg

....a grudge match?????

I feel the Need...the Need for Speed!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPNQ82Sq4E

Traction-Event
I like where this thread is going. :)

Final Run ended this casting, but its racing career is never over. It looks like a dryad from a fantasy world should be in the driver's seat of this 93 Camaro.

http://i.imgur.com/1aPsVGl.jpg


You boys gonna race them ponies...or whistle Dixie.



Prints  Posters of Clint Eastwood 21892

Hey Guys,

I'll run whatever grudge races you'd like to run :) 

I'll get some builds going soon, so you can see what I'm running as well.

Just let me know what you want to run...and I'll make it happen :)

The bodies are in the paint shop and the chassis are ready to be refit as the donor cars are in the chop shop. Hope to get the bodies off and axels extracted tonight. Good Luck on the builds!!!

One pony getting close. Home track is not set up, so we'll see if it's fast on race day


http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/IMG_0219.jpg

72_Chevy_C10
You like those 2nd Gen without the spoilers, don't ya? :) Looking good!
Traction-Event
Always did like a smooth... um... rear end...

OK, I'll share.....if you have a 67 Mustang GT like I'm modding and want to go with FTE's and don't have a another Mustang for the swap.....Ford Shelby GR-1 Concept works great. The fatter back tires make for a more aggressive looking Stang. The 69 Pontiac Firebird matches up nice with the FTE Fast Fish....I had a FTE 69 Pontiac GTO, so that one was cake. I also see some racers are modding second generation Ponies....I like it!!!!

72_Chevy_C10
Have you seen any of my posts about axle tubes...tgat might help ya out.
LeagueofSpeed
I put axel tubes in that Chevelle SS I raced in the Dragon Wagons
LeagueofSpeed
I will do tubes if a straight swap is just hard to accomplish.
LeagueofSpeed
If you have an axel that won't work, you still have to pop it out of a donor car.
72_Chevy_C10
Okay, just checking...axle tubes help get the width set
LeagueofSpeed
I agree

It's to windy in NC to paint today, so I will polish some axels and get one chassis in the jig tonight. 

Progress on 2nd Pony... wing will stay on this one.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/IMG_0221_1.jpg

LeagueofSpeed
Pretty work there TE
72_Chevy_C10
Look at those fancy axle tubes :) Looking good, TE!
undercoverbuick
why didn't you finish filing out the tubing so its half round all the way across?
LeagueofSpeed
That's more than enough,filling should be contained within the chassid-IMO
undercoverbuick
I stopped splitting the axles. I dont think its the way to go.
Traction-Event
slot in axle tube, for epoxy to hold axles in place.

Ready to get jiggy with it.


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170303_195800_zpsmsknnnyo.jpg

72_Chevy_C10
Awesome!
Traction-Event
All lined up and ready.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/20170303_211332_zpshy9xz35c.jpg

Well, I think there are a few potential Ponys  there...you already know the blue one in the middle is one of them, with it's mighty 401! But, I'll have to sort out the other contenders.

Traction-Event
Good choices there, and the mighty AMC!!!

Mustang chassis in the jig taking a JB nap


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170304_105056_zpsxhaw1lvu.jpg

LeagueofSpeed
Not windy today but now to cold to apply the primer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9XTjkO1IZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WmvnTNy2ts

Might switch out the Javelin for '68 mustang gasser I had built last summer.  The Javelin is just not passing performance test.

72_Chevy_C10
The mighty Javelins aren't for the feign of heart...it's not easy to get speed out of an AMC product :)

GTO in the jig 


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170305_191251_zpsccggamhm.jpg

Ok, my team is assembled, just some fine tuning and these are ready to race... Team colors for the most part... Except for the Mustang, bit of a wild hair that one... not known to follow the crowd. 

I'll also post up some race bait, for anyone interested in a Grudge race

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/IMG_0233.jpg


Race bait for a Grudge match... You call out one of my cars...and "if" you beat me...you pick one of these cars. 

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/IMG_0222.jpg

Voxxer01
Call out TE. Drag track only. Vs TA.
Traction-Event
Showtime!!!

Official Video and Music of the Grudge Match !!! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCh9OhDiCI

Traction-Event
Solid!

Got the bodies primed yesterday and painting the roofs today.....finish the bodies tomorrow. After I get them reassembled and tuned, I will see if any are grudge match worthy. Good Luck on the builds.

Roofs are done 


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170309_174840_zpsmehwj7eo.jpg

Traction-Event
progress!
LeagueofSpeed
I turned 50 on the 6th...I knew this would be a slow build (s)

I've got a question regarding the rules. I want to enter a 70 Buick Skylark GSX, and to get it to be less like a GSX and more like a stock Skylark, I'd remove the spoiler from the trunk of the casting. Is that against the rules of this race? 

72_Chevy_C10
You can remove the spoiler

Also, the Glo - Orange was to over the top, still orange but more the color of the GTO pictured above. 

Jdub3000
Maybe TE should use the glow orange and yellow......you know Hulk Mania colors.
LeagueofSpeed
Wife and daughters say go with the glow...so back to Glo-Orange

Got to hit it with clear coat, so it will darken up some....it's orange.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170311_164747_zpsi4xk5l6j.jpg

LeagueofSpeed
Going to paint some details as well, it will help tone it down some.
Traction-Event
That is bright!!! we won't miss this on the track, looks great.

Been to cold to paint here in NC last  couple of days, but I'm in the short rows, so making the deadline won't be a problem. I want to get to speed testing to see if I have some grudge match worthy speed or just very bright sacrificial lambs.

My printer is busted (stressing me out) so I made my ID card by hand with all the appropriate information, I hope this is acceptable.  On the bright side I got a new phone so better quality photos. I'll have them shipped sometime this week.

-'68 Nova

-'68 Shelby GT 500

-'70 Dodge Challenger


Traction-Event
Good looking team...
72_Chevy_C10
Awesome

My cars are in the mail... 

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/60724565.jpg

72_Chevy_C10
I got your cars yesterday, TE...I haven't opened the box yet
Traction-Event
he he... oh I expect a call once you do open the box
72_Chevy_C10
I'll check them out this weekend :)

Mine will ship out no later than Monday the 27th, finish things up between now and then.....and I'll be all outta bubble gum by then....only one thing left to do.

Can I use OH5?

72_Chevy_C10
Sure thing, not a problem!

Is OH5 OK?

72_Chevy_C10
Yup!

Mine are being shipped

My Lil Ponies 

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/dcurrin1399/20170325_143726_zpsoskgj6bs.jpg

LeagueofSpeed
shipping out on Monday 3/27
Traction-Event
If the roll as good as they look, we're all in trouble. Nice builds and paint
LeagueofSpeed
Mustang had to lose the interior to make weight, interior put it at 42.5g
LeagueofSpeed
They all weigh 39.7g
72_Chevy_C10
Awesome!
LeagueofSpeed
Thanks Guys-Looking Forward to the racing

Sorry for being kinda quiet around here lately...I've been busy on several fronts. Work has been kinda crazy this year...for those new racers that don't know, I work for McFarlane Toys as a 3D modeler...and we have some BIG licenses coming up. This is a good thing, but it makes life a little hectic at times.

Also, I'm going to be rescuing another old truck in a couple weeks...I needed a little bigger truck to do some towing and I found a '73 Chevy Cheyenne 20 down in Georgia...and the price was right. This truck has a cool story...it has been on the same property since 1976, and I will be the 3rd owner. It was just used to drive around a 50 acre hunting property when the retired owner would visit Georgia. It has some bumps and bruises, but the odometer only shows a little under 12,000 miles...and there is a good chance those miles  are legit! 

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/Screenshot_2017-03-07-21-18-17-1_zpsfczcgpqf.p...

And, I also started an instagram account just for my trucks and tractors...it's called coololdtrucksandstuff. Check it out. I'll be documenting my trip to Georgia in a few weeks...I hope you'll follow along.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/Screenshot_2017-03-31-21-08-20_zps570ojkf7.png

But, for now, I better get building some Pony Cars for next week's  race! Get those cars sent in, Guys!

Traction-Event
Good stuff here, low mile vintage Chevys... Nice

What about PR5?

72_Chevy_C10
Yup... it the race is in a week...better get them built soon :)

I will.

I don't think my car is going to be fast enough for this event. You guys are just to experienced for me to race this one. Maybe if someone hosts another beginner race, I'd enter. But as it stands, my 70 Skylark just isn't fast enough in testing. Sorry.

Traction-Event
send it! you'll never know unless you give it a try.

Will be mailing out my entries tomorrow. I should've named my cars "Team Procrastination".

These are as quick as they can be. The Challenger is the quickest, but the others are better at open track. Charles Darwin would approve.

http://i.imgur.com/glWfbaV.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/i-find-your-lack-of-faith-disturbing-i-find-the-...


Lets bring the fun back to racing!!!

Eat My Dust!!!!!!!!!!



Traction-Event
atta boy!


Get Some!!!!!

Traction-Event
not sure my Mustang will do that... it's "planted" ...

Really not sure what to expect....other than having fun!  The Stang and Firebird were dead even during speed test and got some more speed coaxed outta the GTO, but not enough to challenge the other two. Time will tell the tale.

 

Grudge match, my Nova vs. TE's Mustang


Traction-Event
Accepted* the asterisk will be explained, trust me ... it's me not you. :)
Jdub3000
If you win Chris can paint the Nova pink before he sends it back.
LeagueofSpeed
sorry...I accidentally hit" report
LeagueofSpeed
...nothing to see here...nothing to report

Voxxer sent this to me to post...

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u495/Squiggy799/received9510158579093405105.jpeg

Ha! This is shaping up to be a fun one :)


69 Firebird by Restore a Muscle Car ready for SEMA

League of Speed Ponies have reached their destination.....and I sent no bubble gum.

Traction-Event
nice.

Feel the Heat!!!!


1969 GTO

5 teams have rolled in so far for this one! I'll be getting my cars ready before the race...so, that will make at least 6 teams. It's nice to see some numbers for this race!

The first round will probably be late in the day, on Saturday, with the later round taking place on Saturday night!

Thanks for racing, Guys!

Jdub3000
Thanks for all your work putting the race together, I don't see how you do it with all your other projects.

Team Shots...

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669490491_zpswcyccgdu.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669534109_zpsihkqgjrb.jpg

New Racers...Father & Son 

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669577461_zpsy54y05uu.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669619314_zpstaztah7g.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491670386521_zpsht7sgyya.jpg

Best use of day glow orange...

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669688393_zpsq72incxt.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669721894_zpsoqyswpow.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669752704_zpswkbuvi0g.jpg

You know you've been racing with someone for a long time when you get a car like this...

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/1491669788911_zpsmpvekgit.jpg

LeagueofSpeed
crammed full of lead....to funny!!!!
Jdub3000
Ha Ha thats the car I picked for the grudge match.
Traction-Event
Hmmm, my scale must be off? Thanks for the sweet paint job. :)
72_Chevy_C10
Yeah, JDub, you might want to re-think that grudge race :)
Jdub3000
I made my bed i'll sleep in it, the subtle hints in his previous posts should have made it obvious he was up to something.

The Bracket...

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w407/critterwerks/20170408_140308_zps2cfecirh.jpg

The 'Win to Get In' races will happen in a bit...I need to whipe down the track and check that it is running fair

The track is clean and running well...I'm just going to let my phone charge a little more before I run the win to get in races.

Win to Get In round...

https://youtu.be/FcNCVp6A6Qo

LeagueofSpeed
Heck of a duel C10...tight race both times
LeagueofSpeed
Well, unless a different track changes things up, the FB should beat the GTO
72_Chevy_C10
Good racing LoS...door handle to door handle
Traction-Event
plenty of close action, TA goes down... Nice win
LeagueofSpeed
Thanks TA....GTO still alive

Round 1...

https://youtu.be/vhng8pNHqYY

LeagueofSpeed
Wow, the GTO runs different on your track
LeagueofSpeed
Great race Vox

The next rounds will be after supper, so check in later :)

Round 2...

https://youtu.be/bQE0oZMwVHQ

LeagueofSpeed
The GTO battled and did not go quietly into the night
Traction-Event
epic battle Big Mike, and LOS!!!!
LeagueofSpeed
Excellent racing Big Mike...congrats on the Final 4
LeagueofSpeed
Thanks TE.....this rookie is just happy not to be an easy out

Round 3...

https://youtu.be/_rNmCr542rU

Voxxer01
Love the cat !!!!!

Round 4 - Finals...

https://youtu.be/6OV5Nmyrrd0

LeagueofSpeed
Voxxer is still the man to beat...nice victory
Voxxer01
Great racing Big Mike !!!

Grudge Match.....League of Speed Mustang vs Traction Event Z28....if you win you get the Stang....if I win I want the RR Cougar 

Traction-Event
I'm up for it.
LeagueofSpeed
Solid

Thanks for the great race chris. Glad to see the kid go up against voxxer great video thanks for your time

72_Chevy_C10
Congrats on a great race!
Traction-Event
great to see new faces running well, congrats to all.

Congrats to the winner and to the new faces!  There was good, close racing throughout the bracket...good builds, Guys!

I'm going to push the Open Track race back a week. I was originally going to run it next weekend, but I am going to Georgia on the 17th to get another old Chevy. And I'm going to have a lot of running around to do next week. Getting an open track set up so that it is safe and fair can be pretty tricky, so I want to take a little time tinkering with it before I race on it.

But, I will run the grudge races tomorrow...so, if anyone else has any call-outs, let me know!

Thanks for racing!


LeagueofSpeed
My FB vs your Jav....just to see if one can get a W
72_Chevy_C10
Okay, you're on!
LeagueofSpeed
Also, if it's not a problem...would love to see my Stang and GTO go at since the GTO and FB raced I'd like to know which was my best build

Grudges...

https://youtu.be/8i3Kub18yK0

LeagueofSpeed
Beautiful Battle TE...enjoy the Stang
Traction-Event
TIGHT racing LoS... wish it was tighter with Voxxer. Jdubb, you got snookered... keep your paint

Here's your GTO vs Stang, LoS...

https://youtu.be/K5KsyBrluHc

LeagueofSpeed
GTO takes top billing....thanks C10!!!!

That was fun, only thing better would have been winning the drag portion of Pony Wars 2, however, not discouraged, as it was fun to race Voxxer to gauge where things are at with LoS R and D. Looking forward to the road race action to come and thanks C10 for hosting and doing the Grudge matches. The Firebird was very squirrely but it's chassis did not allow me to put it in the jig...and it showed. The GTO preformed completely different on C10's track....I tested and tuned on a little sprint track I set up going into the race...it had very little run out, which hid the fact that the GTO was a closer...all in all, great experience and a lot of fun. Thanks to all for the  competition and camaraderie.        

Great job hosting, and on race coverage C10!!! As expected this event delivered great action, and close racing. Congrats to all winners, and over all CHAMP..

Hey Guys!

I haven't forgotten about ya! I've just been working on cleaning 40 years of dirt and grime off of the '73 Chevy that I just drove home from Georgia! 

I was looking around the basement to figure out how to lay out the open track...and I've got A LOT of truck parts down there! I can't figure out how that happened! So, I was actually panning on something a little different...an outdoor track! But, of course, I awoke today to rainy day!

I'll get the cars run this weekend...one way or another. It might just take a little creativity to do it. The plan is to build and test the track today...somewhere. And race tomorrow. 

I'll keep you posted! 

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