BLR lube question...track hosts
LONE_WOLF_RACING Wednesday, 2/19/2025
First off, I would like to thank BLR for his dedication and willingness to share what he has learned. I appreciate it greatly. I see all of the builders responding but am wondering what the track host think of all of this.
Obviously, builders are going to be attempting this process and want the track hosts opinions. Thx in advance...
Discussion
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I'm a "small fish" in the track hosts category but.....I believe I have always allowed any lube in my race postings.
They probably think, "Great, now I'm going to get a bunch of lube on my track." haha
if the host prohibits it, don't do it, if not prohibited, it's fair game
they make the rules. It's up to us to abide by them
I have experimented with oils, but due to the "dry only" rule,
all my major research has been dry based components (applied with alcohol and dried)
I am currently using a mix of "long grain graphite", fine graphite powder, and moly. sulf.
for all competition cars
(thanks BLR for the info)
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All the cars I have sent up until recently (when I came back to racing after a hiatus) were lubed with dry Teflon and graphite lube. Only my very most recent cars have been wet.
For me, as long as your not dripping wet, which I haven't had happen in the few races we have hosted, I'm good with what ever you builders want to use. If I see an issue starting on my track, I will give feedback. But from what it sounds like, a little goes a long way. Sometimes I forget to swap the lube option out in the rules, so if you send one to our track, know I'm good with it. Thank you all for wanting to race at our facility and we hope to continue to make the racing as good as possible.
Well, the way I look at it is if the host says dry lube only I'll be racing dry. If the host says wet or dry lube, I'll be racing dry. If the host says they don't care do whatever I'll be racing dry.
Now moving on to build a fast gasser for Tiny Tracks - then HW vs MBX for Elevation Racing - then an Indy car - then.......,
I'm still trying to make my car go straight.
Not a host personally, however, my opinion is that if it's not dripping or fouling the track, it should stand. I'd like to see the dry lube only rule and go away and replaced with something along the lines of no dripping lube.
Pros
- liquid lube done right is quicker.
- It is a difficult rule to police. Although I think with experience you can tell just by examining the car.
- this is real adult racing and the outcomes do matter to most of us.
Cons
-I'd be more concerned about silicone than oil. Silicone has the potential to foul your paint jobs though. My father-in-law was a custom cabinet maker and absolutely hates the stuff. Won't have it on his property as it causes significant fish eye in his finish jobs. I have seen some fisheyes in some of my paint jobs since I started experimenting with silicone this summer. Once it's around, it's nearly impossible to get rid of.
Also, I wonder if that's why cars at gravity throttle racing aren't drifting as well as they used to. Two theories one. They are faster than they used to be a year or two ago, Or two The drift surface may be contaminated.
Here on my track, Haywood Valley Raceway, I want racers to be sending in cars they feel are competetive, no matter if its stock or modified races. Any and all lube and lube processes are welcome here. If you are happy with what you are sending in, I'm happy too.
BTW, if anyone who does not have a track wants to send in some test builds to compare their wet vs dry builds or testing out weight placement ideas, or whatever..... I'm open to that. Send me a message and we will make it happen.
While I've yet to hold any mail-in races I have hosted many in-person events over the last few years. My rule regarding lubes is simple - No Excessive Lubes - primarily to protect my tracks.
Determining excessive is a simple white paper test. Tap a car on white, blank piece of paper and if it leaves dry or wet residue it doesnt run until it's cleaned up,